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Core Intuition

In multi-round LLM post-training, the standard pattern is:

  • Round $i$: $\text{SFT}_i \rightarrow \text{RL}_i$
  • Round $i+1$: start from $\text{SFT}i$ to train $\text{SFT}{i+1}$, then $\text{SFT}{i+1} \rightarrow \text{RL}{i+1}$

Why not start round $i+1$’s SFT from $\text{RL}_i$ instead?

Both are done in practice, but branching SFT from the previous SFT is the safer default. The core reason is that RL collapses entropy and bakes in reward-model biases; using that as the seed for the next round’s SFT compounds those problems across rounds.

Mental model:

  • SFT = broad imitation. Wants high-entropy, diverse data. Sensitive to distribution mismatch.
  • RL = narrow optimization against a reward signal. Collapses entropy. Bakes in Reward Model (RM) bias.

Stacking SFT -> RL -> SFT -> RL means alternately broadening and narrowing and re-broadening and re-narrowing. The broadening step is more reliable when its starting point hasn’t already been narrowed, hence the conservative default of branching SFT off SFT and treating each RL checkpoint as a leaf.

Mathematical Foundation

PPO in RLHF

PPO (Proximal Policy Optimization) is a policy-gradient RL algorithm that updates the LLM policy to maximize a reward signal from the reward model while staying close to a reference policy via a clipped surrogate objective. The RLHF loop: generate response $\rightarrow$ score with RM $\rightarrow$ update policy with PPO.

Why PPO aggressively sharpens the output distribution:

  • Reward maximization concentrates probability mass. Once PPO identifies token sequences that score high, it rapidly increases their probability at the expense of alternatives.
  • Mode collapse / reward hacking. The RM is an imperfect proxy; PPO exploits its peaks, concentrating probability on a narrow set of “high-scoring” outputs rather than maintaining diversity. (See #Reward Hacking: Deep Dive below.)
  • Weak entropy regularization. Without a strong entropy bonus, the gradient signal from reward maximization dominates, collapsing the distribution toward greedy modes.
  • Finite KL budget. The KL divergence constraint (vs. the SFT reference) slows but doesn’t prevent sharpening. Given enough updates, the policy drifts toward low-entropy outputs that maximize cumulative reward within the KL budget.

Practical consequence: after PPO the model produces more confident, stylistically uniform outputs but loses coverage of the tail of valid responses. This motivates the “branch from SFT” default below.

Why $\text{SFT}i \rightarrow \text{SFT}{i+1}$ is the Default

  1. Entropy collapse / mode narrowing: PPO aggressively sharpens the output distribution. The policy commits to a few RM-preferred modes; rare-but-valid behaviors get squeezed out. SFT (cross-entropy MLE) on top of a low-entropy policy creates large gradients when targets are far from the current distribution, causing instability and uncontrolled erosion of RL gains. $\text{SFT}_i$ has a healthier entropy profile as a starting point.

  2. Reward hacking artifacts get baked in: $\text{RL}_i$ inherits whatever pathologies $\text{RM}_i$ has: length bias, sycophancy, formatting tics, miscalibrated refusals. SFT teaches imitation, not avoidance, so these become the prior for the next round and are hard to wash out.

  3. KL reference cleanliness: In $\text{RL}{i+1}$, the KL penalty $\text{KL}(\pi \,\Vert\, \pi\text{ref})$ uses $\text{SFT}{i+1}$ as $\pi\text{ref}$. You want $\pi_\text{ref}$ to be broad and well-behaved. If $\text{SFT}_{i+1}$ descends from $\text{RL}_i$, the reference is already RL-shaped, and the KL constraint anchors to biased behavior.

  4. Pipeline interpretability: Keeping the SFT lineage as the trunk and RL as side-branches makes ablation/rollback clean. Continuing from RL entangles the stages.

  5. Optimization stability: Empirically, SFT on top of heavily RL’d checkpoints is finicky: LR-sensitive, loss spikes, occasional catastrophic forgetting.

When Starting from $\text{RL}_i$ is Fine

The “branch from SFT” rule is really about uncurated, off-policy SFT data. It relaxes when SFT data is on-policy w.r.t. $\text{RL}_i$:

  • Rejection sampling fine-tuning (RFT) / expert iteration (Llama 2, reasoning-model recipes): sample from $\text{RL}_i$, filter via RM/verifier, SFT on survivors. The filter is the safety valve.
  • Iterative / online DPO: each iteration continues from the previous policy. DPO is gentler on entropy than PPO.
  • Continuous / online RLHF: no clean round boundary in the first place.

Reward Hacking: Deep Dive

$\text{RM}_i$ is a learned proxy for human preferences, trained on finite data. PPO optimizes against this proxy, not the true objective. Goodhart’s law: the policy finds regions where RM score is high but humans wouldn’t actually prefer the output. The gap between proxy reward and true quality is reward hacking. Not malicious: just gradient descent on a flawed objective.

Common patterns:

Pattern Mechanism Reference
Length bias Annotators mildly prefer longer answers, RM learns “longer = better”, PPO inflates length (Stiennon et al. 2020), (Singhal et al. 2023)
Sycophancy Annotators rate agreeable answers higher, policy mirrors user’s stated view even when wrong (Perez et al. 2022), (Sharma et al. 2023)
Formatting tics Markdown/headers/lists correlate with “looks organized”, over-produced  
Refusal miscalibration Refusal proxy over-fires on benign requests, under-fires on rephrased unsafe ones  
Confidence inflation Hedged answers rated lower, unwarranted certainty, worse calibration, more hallucination  
RM-specific exploits Any quirk in $\text{RM}_i$ (token-position weighting, favored phrases) gets found by PPO (Gao et al. 2022)

Key empirical result (Gao et al. 2022): as you optimize harder against the RM, proxy reward keeps climbing while gold-standard reward eventually drops. The gap is the hacking. Bigger RMs and more preference data push the turnover point out, but don’t eliminate it.

Why this compounds across rounds:

  1. SFT can’t easily unlearn diffuse biases. Cross-entropy increases probability on demonstrated tokens but doesn’t actively suppress diffuse output-distribution properties (length, sycophancy, formatting habits).
  2. KL protects hacked behaviors. If $\text{SFT}_{i+1}$ inherits $\text{RL}_i$’s biases, the round-$(i+1)$ KL penalty protects those biases (deviating costs KL). Round $(i+1)$’s RM then adds its own layer of hacking on top, causing monotonic drift across rounds.

KL penalty explained: In RLHF, the PPO objective includes a KL divergence term: \(R_{\text{total}} = R_{\text{RM}}(\pi) - \beta \cdot \text{KL}(\pi \,\Vert\, \pi_{\text{ref}})\)

where $\pi_{\text{ref}}$ is the SFT checkpoint for that round. The KL term penalizes the policy for deviating too far from the reference, acting as a “safety leash” against reward hacking. However, this only works when $\pi_{\text{ref}}$ itself is clean.

Monotonic drift across rounds (when branching from RL):

  • Round $i$: $\text{RM}_i$’s biases get hacked by PPO → $\text{RL}_i$ carries bias set A
  • Round $i+1$: $\pi_{\text{ref}}$ inherits bias A (KL protects it), $\text{RM}_{i+1}$ adds new bias B on top
  • Round $i+2$: $\pi_{\text{ref}}$ inherits bias A+B (KL protects both), $\text{RM}_{i+2}$ adds bias C
  • …biases only accumulate, never decay

The KL penalty inverts its purpose: correcting inherited biases costs KL (gets penalized), while preserving them saves KL (gets rewarded). This is why branching SFT from the previous SFT keeps $\pi_{\text{ref}}$ clean so KL can function as intended.

Mitigations within a round:

  • Length-controlled RMs: Regress out length as a confounding variable before scoring, so PPO cannot exploit “longer = better.”
  • KL penalty tuning / early stopping: Adaptively adjust $\beta$ or halt training once $\text{KL}(\pi \,\Vert\, \pi_{\text{ref}})$ exceeds a threshold. Beyond that point, proxy reward may still rise but gold reward is already declining.
  • RM ensembling (Coste et al. 2023): Average scores from multiple independently trained RMs. Individual quirks cancel out, making it harder for PPO to find an exploit that fools all RMs simultaneously.
  • Explicit length/format penalties: Add direct penalty terms to the reward (e.g., $-\alpha_{\text{len}} \cdot \max(0, \text{len} - \text{len}{\text{max}})$) to hard-cap known hacking modes. Here $\text{len}$ is the token length of the generated response and $\text{len}{\text{max}}$ is a pre-set maximum length threshold. The penalty is zero when the response is within budget and linearly increases for every token beyond it.
  • Aggressive filtering in RFT-style pipelines: Generate many candidates from the policy but only keep those passing strict filters (verifiers, length caps, factuality checks) for the next SFT round. Acts as a safety valve between RL output and SFT data.

None fully solve hacking; they push the Goodhart frontier outward.

Component of

  • LLM Post-Training Pipeline #todo
  • Supervised Fine-Tuning (SFT) #todo
  • RLHF #todo
  • Rejection Sampling Fine-Tuning #todo
  • PPO #todo

Insights

  • The “branch from SFT” default is really about protecting entropy and avoiding compounding RM biases across rounds.
  • When SFT data is on-policy w.r.t. the RL checkpoint (RFT, online DPO), starting from $\text{RL}_i$ is safe because the filter/verifier acts as a safety valve.
  • Reward hacking is not a bug in PPO; it’s Goodhart’s law applied to learned reward proxies. Mitigations push the frontier outward but don’t eliminate it.

Pitfalls

  • Assuming $\text{RL}i \rightarrow \text{SFT}{i+1}$ is always wrong: it works well in expert iteration / RFT pipelines (Llama 2, reasoning models) where the SFT data is curated from the RL policy itself.
  • Ignoring entropy diagnostics: not monitoring policy entropy across rounds lets mode collapse go undetected until quality degrades.
  • Over-relying on KL penalty alone: KL constrains deviation from the reference but doesn’t fix a biased reference. If $\pi_\text{ref}$ is already RL-shaped, the KL constraint anchors to biased behavior.

Connections

  • Reward Hacking #todo: Goodhart’s law applied to learned reward proxies
  • PPO #todo: the dominant RL algorithm for RLHF; responsible for entropy collapse
  • DPO #todo: gentler alternative to PPO that avoids explicit reward modeling
  • GRPO #todo: group relative policy optimization, used in DeepSeek-R1
  • Rejection Sampling Fine-Tuning #todo: on-policy SFT variant where starting from RL checkpoint is safe

References

  • Stiennon et al. (2020). Learning to summarize with human feedback.
  • Gao, Schulman & Hilton (2022). Scaling Laws for Reward Model Overoptimization.
  • Perez et al. (2022). Discovering Language Model Behaviors with Model-Written Evaluations.
  • Sharma et al. (2023). Towards Understanding Sycophancy in Language Models.
  • Singhal et al. (2023). A Long Way to Go: Investigating Length Correlations in RLHF.
  • Coste et al. (2023). Reward Model Ensembles Help Mitigate Overoptimization.